James Gunn, the director behind the new Superman film, recently made it clear that he does not see all superheroes as equal, sharing this view in an interview where he also hinted at a possible dual universe within the DC Universe (DCU). As the 2025 Superman movie hits theaters, Gunn discussed his strategy for launching the DCU by starting with one of its most iconic characters, Superman. His comments came during a discussion with Seth Meyers on Late Night With Seth Meyers, where Gunn responded firmly when asked whether all heroes are equal by simply saying, “No.”
Superman’s story in the new film touches on themes of identity, belonging, and the immigrant experience, as the character wrestles with his purpose and the mysterious message left by his parents. Gunn’s approach to Superman’s narrative not only establishes a fresh tone for the DCU but also explains why launching this universe with Superman was both a significant decision and a risk. Despite that risk, the film has been well received, helping Gunn set the foundation for the future of the DC Universe.
Insights Into a Potential Dual Timeline Featuring Batman and Superman
During the interview, James Gunn shared more about the overall DCU plans he is pursuing with co-head Peter Safran. While they have chosen to kick off the DCU with Superman, Gunn expressed enthusiasm for Matt Reeves’ development of The Batman, released in 2022. Reeves’ Batman movies, often referred to as the Reevesverse, remain a separate narrative thread, and Gunn indicated that they intend to allow Reeves to continue expanding this darker, more atmospheric universe.
This approach suggests the existence of two parallel universes within DC films: Gunn’s DCU with a lighter, hopeful tone and the Reevesverse, which maintains a darker and grittier style that many fans have appreciated. This dual-universe strategy appears to cater to diverse audiences—balancing the colorful optimism that Gunn is bringing with the more somber, night-driven world created by Reeves and earlier explored by Zack Snyder’s DCEU.
The Future of DCU and the Possibility of Universe Convergence
Though no official plans have been revealed about whether the two universes will ever intersect, the idea remains intriguing for fans eager to see how James Gunn’s vision might eventually connect with Matt Reeves’ darker Batman world. Gunn’s decision to start the DCU with Superman and support Reeves’ work highlights a unique coexistence that aims to satisfy a broad spectrum of viewers within the DC fanbase.
As Superman continues to screen in theaters and The Batman streams on HBO Max in the USA, these developments set the stage for what could be an expansive and diverse future for DC films. How these two universes will evolve, and whether they merge, remains to be seen, but this dual path may allow both styles and stories to flourish side by side.
“No” —James Gunn, Director
“We and Peter Safran were happy about Matt Reeves’ development of his Batman movies.” —James Gunn, Director
Our Reader’s Queries
Q. What is James Gunn’s religion?
A. The CGI-animated version of Krypto the Superdog in Gunn’s 2025 Superman movie was inspired by Ozu. Gunn grew up in a Catholic household and still finds prayer important. However, he has also expressed that he is, in certain ways, against religion.
